Service Over Status: Dr. Mel Thacker on Fiduciary Ethics, Patient Power, and Real Joy
Content note: This episode includes discussion of burnout, panic attacks, insomnia, and a brief mention of suicidal thoughts (non-graphic). Please listen with care.
When achievement stops feeling like joy—and the “perfect life” shows up with panic in tow—what then?
I’m joined by surgeon, coach, and Surgeons with Purpose host Dr. Mel Thacker for a candid look at hero culture in medicine, fiduciary ethics, and how we return power to patients (and to ourselves). Mel shares the moment her “shaking hands in the OR” became a wake-up call, why creation has to be for you first, and how suffering—when witnessed with compassion—can become fuel for purpose.
Together, we unpack the Drama Triangle and the Empowerment Dynamic, the subtle creep of “get energy,” and practical ways to stay in integrity when compensation and convenience tempt us off-center.
In this episode, you’ll learn
- How panic, insomnia, and “I must be broken” thoughts can be early sirens of burnout—and what healing looked like for Mel
- The Drama Triangle (victim–hero–villain) vs. David Emerald’s Empowerment Dynamic (creator–coach–challenger), with real clinical scenarios
- Why the “healthcare hero” narrative can unintentionally disempower patients—and how to coach instead of rescue
- Fiduciary ethics in the exam room: naming incentives, protecting integrity, and keeping decisions in the patient’s hands
- Why creation must be “for you first”—and how that shifts your voice from performative to powerful
- What agency looks like in career evolution: closing one chapter so another can fully begin
- How to transmute suffering into service without bypassing the hard parts (hello, Viktor Frankl)
- The vision of the Hippocratic Collective: every physician’s voice belongs—plus an Artist-in-Residence translating patient journeys through dance
If you’re a clinician who looks “successful” on paper but feels misaligned, over-responsible, or stuck in hero mode, this conversation is a reframe and a reset.
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A gentle note: I’m a doctor, but I’m not your doctor. This podcast is for education and connection only and isn’t medical advice. Please talk with your own clinician about your specific situation.
More from Dr. Mel Thacker
- Website: https://www.melthackercoaching.com/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_surgeon_coach
- Podcast: Surgeons with Purpose — Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/surgeons-with-purpose/id1756605849
- The Hippocratic Collective: https://hippocratic-collective.com
Stay connected with us
- Dr. Chrissie Ott (IG): https://www.instagram.com/chrissieottmd
- Dr. Chrissie Ott (website): https://www.chrissieottmd.com
- Joy Point Solutions (IG): https://www.instagram.com/joypointsolutions
- Solving for Joy Podcast (IG): https://www.instagram.com/solvingforjoypodcast
- Full transcript and more: https://www.solvingforjoy.com
Physician Coaches:
- Physician Coaching Summit: https://www.thephysiciancoachingsummit.com
Next week on Solving for Joy: Dr. Shideh Shafie—emergency physician, performance coach, and co-host of the Physician Coaching Summit. If you’re craving more energy, alignment, and doable rituals (think high-vibe Sundays and 3-minute dance resets), don’t miss it.
